Stroker Or Bolt Ons
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Stroker Or Bolt Ons
Okay guys ive alreayd made my mind up wheather to go with simple bolt ons or internals well im goin with the stroker kit 347 actually but i wanna know what u guys think bolt ons or go for all motor power?
#2
Everything has a cost attached. If you're low on $$$, pick up a bolt on every now and then (ie: the usual intake, exhaust, headers, etc) and most bolt ons are a great bang for buck approach. If you're really serious about an engine build and are willing to take the time and $$$ to put it all together, then I believe its best to build the motor bottom-up. But of course, this opens up a huge debate on TONS of issues.
Bottom Line: Unless u really know what you're doing, I suggest talking to a preformance shop mechanic.
Bottom Line: Unless u really know what you're doing, I suggest talking to a preformance shop mechanic.
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I don't know if you're going for prestige or what by looking at building an all-motor 5L, but I would recommend against that route and pick up a 1500 dollar supercharger, make 400-450 hp to the wheels and be done with it. Or an even cheaper route, nitrous. The money you would spend making that power all-motor really isn't worth it.
Plus I wouldn't even recommend a 347- personally I'd never go past 331 ci. Some people have good experiences with 347's, but I've also heard bad.
At the very least, if you're still going to buy a 347 stroker kit anyway, make sure the piston boss doesn't intersect the oil control ring. I don't think all stroker kits are made like that.
In terms of bolt-ons, for a 5L I'd say the most important mods are gears and exhaust. The stock exhaust is garbage, look at the stock headers after you get them replaced.. it's something that should be on a Honda. You'll have a nice power increase by replacing the whole exhaust system, and gears do wonders for those cars.
Plus I wouldn't even recommend a 347- personally I'd never go past 331 ci. Some people have good experiences with 347's, but I've also heard bad.
At the very least, if you're still going to buy a 347 stroker kit anyway, make sure the piston boss doesn't intersect the oil control ring. I don't think all stroker kits are made like that.
In terms of bolt-ons, for a 5L I'd say the most important mods are gears and exhaust. The stock exhaust is garbage, look at the stock headers after you get them replaced.. it's something that should be on a Honda. You'll have a nice power increase by replacing the whole exhaust system, and gears do wonders for those cars.
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well i already got 4:10 gears alum drive shaft frame connectors and shorty headers right now im doin the 347 to see what kinda power i can get like think about it im obviously gonna go faster but if its not to my liking then i put a vortech on the new 347 and make an insane amount of HP my only prob is i wanna stay under 11's cause i dont wanna have to do a roll cage
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ya i know thats why im saying i dont wanna do a blower cause i wanna be able to run like 12.5
like i know in the end im just gonna end up putting a role cage in it but im tryin not too
like i know in the end im just gonna end up putting a role cage in it but im tryin not too
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hahahah a fox body with gears nice clutch i/h/e and a nice 150 will yield a nice 11 's ...stock internals
nicely prepped block and head with a 200 shot and slick should give you consistent mid to low 11's so have fun
nicely prepped block and head with a 200 shot and slick should give you consistent mid to low 11's so have fun
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Originally Posted by 79camaro
hahahah a fox body with gears nice clutch i/h/e and a nice 150 will yield a nice 11 's ...stock internals
nicely prepped block and head with a 200 shot and slick should give you consistent mid to low 11's so have fun
nicely prepped block and head with a 200 shot and slick should give you consistent mid to low 11's so have fun
Exactly and stillhave great gas milage of the stock car. The good thing about NOS, is you only use it when you need it.I have even heard stock 5.0L can handle a 300 shot too. But, then you are living on the edge and can't say how many times you can spray it till it goes boom. There was a NOS kit on this site for sale for a 5.0L, but the guy was way out to lunch on his price as it didn't have the plate for the throttle body.
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Originally Posted by Strokerace
Exactly and stillhave great gas milage of the stock car. The good thing about NOS, is you only use it when you need it.I have even heard stock 5.0L can handle a 300 shot too. But, then you are living on the edge and can't say how many times you can spray it till it goes boom. There was a NOS kit on this site for sale for a 5.0L, but the guy was way out to lunch on his price as it didn't have the plate for the throttle body.
(I may not be correct about the year of heads) I think you get what I mean though.
#12
I think all u gusy r forgetting that the Production 5L block hits its limit in the 550rwhp range....the block WILL crack right down the middle if u r making such insane #'s out of that block...
now if u can find a 302 Boss block or a Ford Racing block thats different...
even a girdle wont help that much, but will somewhat....
BTW a 302 punched and stroked out to a 347 supposedly after normal wear and tear really tend to overheat, as the cylinder walls get worn and there already pretty thin considering the bore size and piston to wall clearance....
-Jay
now if u can find a 302 Boss block or a Ford Racing block thats different...
even a girdle wont help that much, but will somewhat....
BTW a 302 punched and stroked out to a 347 supposedly after normal wear and tear really tend to overheat, as the cylinder walls get worn and there already pretty thin considering the bore size and piston to wall clearance....
-Jay
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Originally Posted by Z28 MeTaL HeAd
I think all u gusy r forgetting that the Production 5L block hits its limit in the 550rwhp range....the block WILL crack right down the middle if u r making such insane #'s out of that block...
-Jay
-Jay
i know TAG RACECRAFT suggests stopping at around 450-480 RWHP and even then they caution against it. Theyve been building Mustangs for 14 years...
I heard they tuned a stock blocker to 800 HP and it got one pass (lol.. i heard this story years ago..who knows)
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