Recient Street Racing Crash Takes a life.
05-29-2006 | 01:14 PM
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Recient Street Racing Crash Takes a life.
High speed may have been a factor in a crash that killed a husband and wife just days after the federal government announced plans to crack down on street racers.
A seven-year-old girl is now an orphan after her parents, 47-year-old Robert Manchester and his 43-year-old wife Lisa, were pronounced dead at the scene where their vehicle was hit by another car while they were trying to make a left hand turn from Yonge onto Stouffville Road Saturday night.
“We have information that there was two sports-type cars, Honda motor vehicles that were travelling at a high rate of speed northbound on Yonge Street immediately prior to the accident,” York Regional Police Staff Sgt. Gary Miner explained.
The driver of the other car is in serious condition in hospital.
On Thursday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced tough new penalties for drivers with a need for speed.
He says his government will make street racing a new criminal offence and that the proposed legislation would include driving prohibitions for those convicted of participating in the illegal competitions.
Police say drag racing is a senseless crime that doesn’t have to end in death.
“It’s just sad. You’ve got a seven-year-old who’s now an orphan and people that are without relatives – it’s just sad,” Miner said.
The 19-year-old driver of the third vehicle now faces two counts of criminal negligence causing death.
A seven-year-old girl is now an orphan after her parents, 47-year-old Robert Manchester and his 43-year-old wife Lisa, were pronounced dead at the scene where their vehicle was hit by another car while they were trying to make a left hand turn from Yonge onto Stouffville Road Saturday night.
“We have information that there was two sports-type cars, Honda motor vehicles that were travelling at a high rate of speed northbound on Yonge Street immediately prior to the accident,” York Regional Police Staff Sgt. Gary Miner explained.
The driver of the other car is in serious condition in hospital.
On Thursday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced tough new penalties for drivers with a need for speed.
He says his government will make street racing a new criminal offence and that the proposed legislation would include driving prohibitions for those convicted of participating in the illegal competitions.
Police say drag racing is a senseless crime that doesn’t have to end in death.
“It’s just sad. You’ve got a seven-year-old who’s now an orphan and people that are without relatives – it’s just sad,” Miner said.
The 19-year-old driver of the third vehicle now faces two counts of criminal negligence causing death.
05-29-2006 | 03:38 PM
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Who's fault was the accident?? Lets just say the the civic guy was speeding like 15 to 20km/h over. Was the civic guy going straight and the other car made a left turn into them?? Just like the taxi driver that died a few months back, wasn't he the one who turned into the benz?? A lot of shitty *** drivers out there!
05-29-2006 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000gsr
Who's fault was the accident?? Lets just say the the civic guy was speeding like 15 to 20km/h over. Was the civic guy going straight and the other car made a left turn into them?? Just like the taxi driver that died a few months back, wasn't he the one who turned into the benz?? A lot of shitty *** drivers out there!
But when approaching traffic is doing twice the speed limit, that assumption no longer holds. Make no mistake - the main reason behind the double fatality wasn't the left turn - it was the unreasonable speeds of the two Hondas racing each other on a public street.
Same thing goes for the cab driver - had the oncoming racing Benzs been doing closer to the speed limit, he could have completed that turn in safety even with the limited visibility at the Mt Pleasant and Whitehall intersection. The completely unreasonable speeds of the Benz's ( 3 times the speed limit) took away any cushion for error. That's not the cabbie's fault.
05-29-2006 | 08:08 PM
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Funny - witness reports and police accident reconstruction peg the speed at around 150 kmph - that's 70 km over the limit. Now who would reasonably expect traffic to be bearing down on them at twice the speed limit? If that was a usual left turn for the guy he probably just noted therelative distance of the approaching cars and assumed that there was adequate time to complete the turn.
But when approaching traffic is doing twice the speed limit, that assumption no longer holds. Make no mistake - the main reason behind the double fatality wasn't the left turn - it was the unreasonable speeds of the two Hondas racing each other on a public street.
Same thing goes for the cab driver - had the oncoming racing Benzs been doing closer to the speed limit, he could have completed that turn in safety even with the limited visibility at the Mt Pleasant and Whitehall intersection. The completely unreasonable speeds of the Benz's ( 3 times the speed limit) took away any cushion for error. That's not the cabbie's fault.
But when approaching traffic is doing twice the speed limit, that assumption no longer holds. Make no mistake - the main reason behind the double fatality wasn't the left turn - it was the unreasonable speeds of the two Hondas racing each other on a public street.
Same thing goes for the cab driver - had the oncoming racing Benzs been doing closer to the speed limit, he could have completed that turn in safety even with the limited visibility at the Mt Pleasant and Whitehall intersection. The completely unreasonable speeds of the Benz's ( 3 times the speed limit) took away any cushion for error. That's not the cabbie's fault.
05-30-2006 | 12:27 AM
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No excuses for the civic guy, he shouldn't be going that fast or racing through an intersection period. People gotta learn to pick and choose their spots properly. Even through my own experience when i'm riding through an intersection on my bike, i keep two fingers on the brake as a LOT of idiots about to make left turns who can't judge my speed even though i'm at the speed limit and still proceed and if i wasn't cautious i would t-bone them. Bottom line speeding/racing through intersections is wrong but at the same time there are a LOT of morons driving around who shouldn't be.
05-30-2006 | 12:50 AM
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Yeah I'd be careful blaming the people who got hit. Something like this happened last year in Winnipeg and some people on the boards started pointing fingers in the wrong direction. Yes it is a driver's responsibility to make sure the road is clear to enter but it puts a whole new spin on it when there's two cars racing. In the incident in Winnipeg it was 3 cars . . . 2 Mustangs and a Camaro . . . just imagine that coming at you at the top of 3rd gear. 
05-30-2006 | 03:23 AM
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What was the license plate on the EG, I can't remember it. I was watching another news channel and I swore it said redrocket or somthing to that effect...if so ive seen that guy around woodbridge and brampton alot
