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Old 02-02-2006 | 11:36 PM
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Got new shocks/springs....help me get them installed

Well guys I have my Eibach Pro kit and will be ordering some single adjustable koni shocks with my tax return. I need to know a few things though.

Do i need an alignment after i install these?
Can I/We do an install or do i need a shop?

Thanks guys
Old 02-02-2006 | 11:43 PM
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you can do everything, but your gonna need an alignment after everything is in. you will prolly need the spring compressor dealy from autozone its free, you just put a deposit on it then get it back. rears are easy and from what ive heard the fronts just plain suck, but are still doable.
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yeah rears are so easy. jack car high from chassis, very high. let rear end hang and rest on jack. unbolt shocks, sway bar end links, upper and lower panhard bars, then lower jack. you might want to take wheels off so you can get the rear lower. once its low enough you can simply pull the springs out. then go inside and pull the rear seat down, and pull the rear deck carpet away and you should see two foam pads on the left and right side. pull them off and unbolt the shocks. install is same as removal, cept remember a few things...when installing the shock and bolting the nut down make sure the part that goes through the whole isnt touching the metal of the car, otherwise you'll get a bad squeak. also try to remember the position of the springs when you removed them, that is, where the coil ended. then reinstall the new one in the same spot.

fronts are trickier...maybe a 7 out of 10 for a newbie. i havent done it in awhile, so i dont remember exactly what to do...so wing it
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Like it was already said the rears are super easy. I swapped out both rear springs in about 20 mins total. The only problem you really have to worry about the fronts is if the bolts are rusted on. They were on my '94 and one was on my '99. Like Matt said you'll need a spring compresser for the fronts.
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Like said about its not that bad, but definatly get the spring tool for them
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Allso let me know how the pro kit works ive beeen thinking about ordering that kit from work everytime i go lookin through the computer at work to see what i can get for my car i think about gettin that, plus with my 20% discount it makes me want to even more.
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Also while we are on the subject do you guys think the Eibach sportline kit would be too low, i scrape pretty bad the way it is on some roads in the area, but im used to it i know when to slow down and hit **** at an angle but the pro line looks like a decent size drop but not sure if sportline would be too low
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Sportline is not for a daily driver and makes headers not even a option. For me the lowest kit I would go with is the G2 kit.
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yea i was thinking about getting rid of my prokit springs for the sportlines, because theres only gonna be a little bit of a difference compared to the WS6 sprigns now, but then i thought abuot the headers and how much i already scrape. sportline is definitly not for headers.
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what shocks and spring do you guys think are good?
I dont want to drop the car any but shes gonna need em.
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In my opinion, I couldn't have gotten a better combo than the progressive rate Eibach's and 8-way adjustable KYB's that I have. It rides very smooth, is very responsive, and dropped my car just the right amount. I'm happy.
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Originally Posted by Gentner_Z28
In my opinion, I couldn't have gotten a better combo than the progressive rate Eibach's and 8-way adjustable KYB's that I have. It rides very smooth, is very responsive, and dropped my car just the right amount. I'm happy.
I have to agree with Genter........
I can't speak for the Eibach's, but I DO have the KYB's as well, except mine are all the way around. And I agree,....the ride is extremely smooth, and that's even with my car being lowered 2". I assumed it would be very stiff and bouncy, but much to my surprise it wasn't.

So if you want a good shock/strut combo at a decent price, I picked up my full set of KYB-AGX's for only $270.00 + shipping. Shipped to my house was like $298.00, which ain't too bad for some 8 way adjustables.
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Originally Posted by 97z2801ss
what shocks and spring do you guys think are good?
I dont want to drop the car any but shes gonna need em.
I know the Monroe shocks we sell at work are good, especially the Reflex line. As for springs I think SLP sells them for like 15 bucks a spring.
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Originally Posted by Knowklew
Well guys I have my Eibach Pro kit and will be ordering some single adjustable koni shocks with my tax return. I need to know a few things though.

Do i need an alignment after i install these?
Can I/We do an install or do i need a shop?

Thanks guys
Dude you're going to LOVE the Koni's

On my previous 93Z, I had at one time or another the following shocks on the Eibach Prokit springs:

de Carbons(factory=cheap=garbage)

Bilstein HD's...WOW!!! GREAT ride, VERY responsive...But after 30-35K miles they faded away...I found out later that the Bilstein HD's are NOT designed for f-bodies with lowered springs, apparently they died cuz the spring rate was shorter than stock springs which didn't allow the Bilstein's to operate properly, so they died. and it felt like I was BANGING when hitting dips or uneven pavement

After all this drama and 175K miles on the 93Z, I ended up talking to an f-body suspension GURU by the name of Sam Strano, who sells LOTS of shocks by different manufacturers for our cars including KYB's, Bilstein HD's, as well as revalved Bilsteins to match whatever spring you get, Koni's Non-adj, Single Adj and Double Adj, he gave me lots of information so I could make an educated choice for the future...

I then sold the 93Z, got my current 01SS and did it the right way(for me anyway.) for a serious handler/corner carver, I bought the Koni DA's(definite overkill for the street) with GC coilovers 500# linear fronts & 150# rears and let me tell you, all the other shocks aforementioned are inferior compared to the Koni's.

No I don't autocross, and no I am not a roadracer, I just wanted my SS to handle OUTSTANDINGLY, I wanted an M3 hunter/killer, and that's what I got...

This is NOT to say that Koni's are THE best, it all depends on the application. Lots of f-body owners are driving around right now with revalved Bilstein's set up for whatever spring they bought, and this setup is outstanding for the street/corner carving squids out there.

The Koni adjustables can be adjusted to have a softer or more spirited ride no matter what springs you have, that's their advantage.

If you get the Koni SA's, you sir will be THRILLED with the performance...soft when driving easy, VERY responsive for spirited driving. Other than revalved Bilstein's nothing else can compare...Sorry folks, but it's the truth.

If you are not an aggressive driver, but want something better for the street, and are not going to change springs, then the Bilstein HD's are perfect, and to a lesser extent the KYB's and then the Monroes, finally the factory deCarbons.

If you want a great handling(read corner-carving) f-body THE number one thing you can do is buy a great pair of shocks. With shocks you get what you pay for...

If you want more information on this visit ls1tech.com or frrax.com (frrax=f-body road racing auto cross), they'll provide you with validation on what I'm saying.

Now if you want a great suspension for the 1/4 mile, then you can basically throw what I typed right out the window, none of this applies

And not to insult f-body owners out there with lowered cars using Monroe & KYB's or regular Bilstein HD's or even factory deCarbon's...If you are happy with your shocks, then that's fine...bottom-line the only way you are going to really know the difference is to upgrade to either the revalved Bilstein's or Koni's, then you will understand.

FWIW, Koni's have a lifetime warranty, so if your koni's ever blow(not too likely) Koni will rebuild them for FREE...

Something to think about...


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